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Post by jflory7 on Apr 1, 2016 14:50:45 GMT -5
Hi all, Today, EITS released their first non-soundtrack album in five years, titled "The Wilderness". It's one of the best, in my opinion, and the soundscapes and dimensions created in this last album are new territory for the band. I am incredibly pleased with the story the album tells. You can find the album for sale here, which includes digital, CD, and vinyl. EITS is also going on tour, which you can find out more about on their site. There is also a site that features some pictures taken over the past 17 years that goes with the album at thewilderness.space. Take care, - j |
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Post by renojoy on Apr 2, 2016 20:00:08 GMT -5
I found this forum just to discuss the album, not sure if any of the band members read this (doubt it), but if someone did - this is what I want to know;
I understand that after all these years you wanted to move in a kinda new direction, try new things out. So, how happy are you with the album, are you satisfied with the outcome? Stupid question, some would say since they released it and just by releasing it they said they approve and like the content, but still...
Do you plan on moving on, continue making this type of music or is there a chance you'll go back to your roots? And why so, what are the reasons?
IMHO, I love the album, a bad song does not exist on it and some are special, out of the world. But I still miss the old sound, got used to it so hard that the music on this album hit me hard, knowing that a band I adore changed... and people say changes are good, but I disagree fully on that, really do miss the roots. It's a shock to find out that after 15 years of making perfect music with a recognizable sound and still having each album so unique and genius - it has changed. Like losing a long-term girlfriend that you loved with all your heart and you still will.
I'm still going to listen to the album for many many many more times and enjoy every second of it, but bothers me because it doesn't naturally come to, the sentence "THIS IS EITS". Feeling kinda weird ugh
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Post by renojoy on Apr 2, 2016 20:09:22 GMT -5
Just noticed how dead the forum is and I very much liked the post about the time capsule ^^
But if no one else exists in this internet desert, I'd like your answer/opinion at least. Why do you greet this change so openly? Maybe the reason we love the band is not the same and it kinda affects my thoughts about the new album, when I go deeper into thinking it just might affect it a lot...
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Post by jflory7 on Apr 3, 2016 23:53:25 GMT -5
I found this forum just to discuss the album, not sure if any of the band members read this (doubt it), but if someone did - this is what I want to know; I understand that after all these years you wanted to move in a kinda new direction, try new things out. So, how happy are you with the album, are you satisfied with the outcome? Stupid question, some would say since they released it and just by releasing it they said they approve and like the content, but still... Do you plan on moving on, continue making this type of music or is there a chance you'll go back to your roots? And why so, what are the reasons? IMHO, I love the album, a bad song does not exist on it and some are special, out of the world. But I still miss the old sound, got used to it so hard that the music on this album hit me hard, knowing that a band I adore changed... and people say changes are good, but I disagree fully on that, really do miss the roots. It's a shock to find out that after 15 years of making perfect music with a recognizable sound and still having each album so unique and genius - it has changed. Like losing a long-term girlfriend that you loved with all your heart and you still will. I'm still going to listen to the album for many many many more times and enjoy every second of it, but bothers me because it doesn't naturally come to, the sentence "THIS IS EITS". Feeling kinda weird ugh It may not answer all of these questions, but EITS recently did an interview with NPR, where they talked more about the album, its meaning, and the process behind putting it together. Maybe this will help shine another perspective behind the making of the album for you. It did for me. I agree that it's definitely a departure from their traditional sound. That was definitely something it seems they were aware of too. Yet, it still has that organic sound to it where it's not lost in digital and electronic to me. I still feel the humanness of it. I can hear the instruments being played behind some modifications, in some songs. It's perhaps more masked in this album than others, but I think this adds to the beauty of the album. The combined nature of the humanness and the mechanical, computer-altered sounds is a contrast, maybe to the human-digital hybrid world we live in today. Just noticed how dead the forum is and I very much liked the post about the time capsule ^^ But if no one else exists in this internet desert, I'd like your answer/opinion at least. Why do you greet this change so openly? Maybe the reason we love the band is not the same and it kinda affects my thoughts about the new album, when I go deeper into thinking it just might affect it a lot... Glad you enjoyed the post… wrote it a long time ago, kind of, and it's fun to reflect back. I'd be interested to know why you love the band, though. I greet the change openly, maybe because I feel like the music is evolving with the times. In my eyes, not only is it a new sound for the band, but it shows me that they are growing and evolving together, and trying new things, and embracing new ideas. To me, this is the ultimate culmination of their own personal development. By that, I mean… I think they're healthy as a group. If their music were always so closely the same, I would fear whether they were really comfortable making the music they are making. But I think the change shows that they are just as passionate and engaged in the art as they were 17 years ago when their journey began. Yeah, it is a bit dead here, unfortunately. Who knows, maybe someday it will change… |
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Post by renojoy on Apr 5, 2016 14:08:04 GMT -5
It may not answer all of these questions, but EITS recently did an interview with NPR, where they talked more about the album, its meaning, and the process behind putting it together. Maybe this will help shine another perspective behind the making of the album for you. It did for me. I agree that it's definitely a departure from their traditional sound. That was definitely something it seems they were aware of too. Yet, it still has that organic sound to it where it's not lost in digital and electronic to me. I still feel the humanness of it. I can hear the instruments being played behind some modifications, in some songs. It's perhaps more masked in this album than others, but I think this adds to the beauty of the album. The combined nature of the humanness and the mechanical, computer-altered sounds is a contrast, maybe to the human-digital hybrid world we live in today. Glad you enjoyed the post… wrote it a long time ago, kind of, and it's fun to reflect back. I'd be interested to know why you love the band, though. I greet the change openly, maybe because I feel like the music is evolving with the times. In my eyes, not only is it a new sound for the band, but it shows me that they are growing and evolving together, and trying new things, and embracing new ideas. To me, this is the ultimate culmination of their own personal development. By that, I mean… I think they're healthy as a group. If their music were always so closely the same, I would fear whether they were really comfortable making the music they are making. But I think the change shows that they are just as passionate and engaged in the art as they were 17 years ago when their journey began. Yeah, it is a bit dead here, unfortunately. Who knows, maybe someday it will change… Did not visit a forum in years, sorry for the bad quoting lol, guess it's fine. Firstly, I was writing that with an adrenalin rush since music affects me hard, maybe the most important thing in my life at the moment because I live to relax my mind with it in these stressful times, it's not bad but the commitments are giving me a hard time lately. Secondly, thanks for the reply and the interview link, I'll get to it as soon as I finish writing this  Yeah, think the interview will help understand a bit more at least, if not fully. And I agree now, their sound is still there, after listening 3 more times. Maybe hidden a bit more but can't agree more with saying it suits "to the human-digital hybrid world we live in today." Always nice to remember! My reasons I love the band are just those that it helped me through some rough times, depression hit me like a rock. And at the time I met the girl I still love and always will, we're not together anymore but she made an impact on my life and I'm glad for every second spent with her (: Seeing her publish 'Your hand in mine' and 'Andria' by La Dispute, both by bands I love, I started a conversation and we helped each other out, we were the crotch for the other one, and 'Your hand in mine' became our song. Sorry if I'm getting too deep into it but as you said, nice to reflect on the past, at least the good times. Once again, agreed to the fullest. Passion is the most important thing for me and they still have it, "healthy as a group"... man, you're good with words, I give you that. Maybe you're American (meaning having english as a native language), but still a really nice flow in the whole answer, thank you again! Planned on travelling to Netherlands in a month to watch them, but they're coming to Croatia in October I think, happiest I've been in a long time. And if you're up for it, I'd like you to elaborate your love for the band, thoughts, anything. Would be nice to read / talk to someone who has a very simillar taste, if I'm not wrong ^^ Btw, I'm Luka, really nice to meet you! |
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Post by renojoy on Apr 5, 2016 14:19:20 GMT -5
I've seen an interview with these guys few days ago and one said something like:"If you make music which people either love or bash on, you're making something else, something worth of making. No middle ground, it's not a good sign if someone says 'It's fine I guess, not sure" because it should be 0 or 1, no inbetween".
And Rayani says it in this interview I just read, real... Lovely, love the whole situation even more now.
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Post by jflory7 on Apr 8, 2016 7:01:59 GMT -5
Did not visit a forum in years, sorry for the bad quoting lol, guess it's fine. Firstly, I was writing that with an adrenalin rush since music affects me hard, maybe the most important thing in my life at the moment because I live to relax my mind with it in these stressful times, it's not bad but the commitments are giving me a hard time lately. Secondly, thanks for the reply and the interview link, I'll get to it as soon as I finish writing this Yeah, think the interview will help understand a bit more at least, if not fully. And I agree now, their sound is still there, after listening 3 more times. Maybe hidden a bit more but can't agree more with saying it suits "to the human-digital hybrid world we live in today." Always nice to remember! My reasons I love the band are just those that it helped me through some rough times, depression hit me like a rock. And at the time I met the girl I still love and always will, we're not together anymore but she made an impact on my life and I'm glad for every second spent with her (: Seeing her publish 'Your hand in mine' and 'Andria' by La Dispute, both by bands I love, I started a conversation and we helped each other out, we were the crotch for the other one, and 'Your hand in mine' became our song. Sorry if I'm getting too deep into it but as you said, nice to reflect on the past, at least the good times. Once again, agreed to the fullest. Passion is the most important thing for me and they still have it, "healthy as a group"... man, you're good with words, I give you that. Maybe you're American (meaning having english as a native language), but still a really nice flow in the whole answer, thank you again! Planned on travelling to Netherlands in a month to watch them, but they're coming to Croatia in October I think, happiest I've been in a long time. No worries, it's fine.  The music affects me in the same way. I can't say a specific time in my music listening history when I first started listening to post-rock / ambient kind of music, but through artists like EITS, El Ten Eleven, and The American Dollar, I started to find the beauty and meaning in music without lyrics. Often times, people don't understand what I mean when an ambient song can have so much meaning embedded into it, but that IS the beauty. The best types of this music style are the ones where the story and meaning are there without someone putting lyrics into it to guide the story for you. You become the traveler and adventurer of the story, in a sense. No, I don't think there's anything wrong with you sharing your experience! It is good to reflect on the past. That's the great thing about EITS, is that all of the songs have a different meaning for everyone. Associating memories with a specific song or songs (or even an entire album) is normal. Thank you for sharing your own thoughts and story behind the music. English is my native language, and I take an interest in studying it too. When I have the opportunity to, I often write, but I haven't had the time to pursue any personal writing in a while. That's awesome about seeing them in the Netherlands and Croatia! They're coming to NYC in September, and I was going to try to make it possible to go and see them. However, the date coincides with another event that following weekend where I will traveling… I was going to buy tickets anyways and see what happens. If I go, those few days are going to be very, very intense. But that's kind of the exciting part, in a weird way! Are you in Croatia? That's actually pretty interesting – I am looking into a study abroad program that would have me in Croatia for the first half of 2017 or so. And if you're up for it, I'd like you to elaborate your love for the band, thoughts, anything. Would be nice to read / talk to someone who has a very simillar taste, if I'm not wrong ^^ Btw, I'm Luka, really nice to meet you! I've seen an interview with these guys few days ago and one said something like:"If you make music which people either love or bash on, you're making something else, something worth of making. No middle ground, it's not a good sign if someone says 'It's fine I guess, not sure" because it should be 0 or 1, no inbetween". And Rayani says it in this interview I just read, real... Lovely, love the whole situation even more now. Hi Luka, nice to meet you too. I think I remember seeing the same thing in an interview too, it's a really interesting take on it, but it makes sense. Either you're passionately in love or passionately despise it. As for love and thoughts for the band, it's hard to find a place to start describing that, hahah. There's so much to cover. I started listening to EITS for the first time probably in 2014 or so, I think. Before this, I had been listening to another post-rock band called El Ten Eleven (which I highly recommend). Through them, I then discovered EITS on Pandora. Probably with "Your Hand in Mine". Seems like that's where a lot of people first listen to them. Anyways, I have a strange music listening cycle. I find new music on Pandora, then I add it to my Spotify and listen to it there for a while, and eventually I finally order a CD, import it to my library, and upload it to Google Play so I can listen on my phone. I can't remember which album I ordered first. It was either "All of a Sudden I Miss Everyone" or "Take Care, Take Care, Take Care". I remember the last one I ordered was "The Earth is Not a Cold Dead Place". Each album means something different to me, and the context surrounding their release definitely adds to the meaning. "Those Who Tell the Truth Shall Die, Those Who Tell the Truth Shall Live Forever" has strong symbolism for war during the whole album, probably because of the connection between the artwork and the Angel of Mons. I think "The Wilderness" definitely has some connections to the digital era, but I haven't quite figured out all the details yet. I'll get back to you on that one.  |
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Post by renojoy on Apr 9, 2016 8:54:53 GMT -5
Man, I already like you. The way you write is the same way I'd share my thoughts if I was on that level with english. And the thing is I really want to write an adequate, sufficient answer to this and that can't happen now since the time is not on my side - but I'll be back in a couple of days Btw gonna check Angels of Mons now, can't believe I've never heard of it before! |
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Post by renojoy on Apr 13, 2016 19:12:52 GMT -5
No worries, it's fine. The music affects me in the same way. I can't say a specific time in my music listening history when I first started listening to post-rock / ambient kind of music, but through artists like EITS, El Ten Eleven, and The American Dollar, I started to find the beauty and meaning in music without lyrics. Often times, people don't understand what I mean when an ambient song can have so much meaning embedded into it, but that IS the beauty. The best types of this music style are the ones where the story and meaning are there without someone putting lyrics into it to guide the story for you. You become the traveler and adventurer of the story, in a sense. No, I don't think there's anything wrong with you sharing your experience! It is good to reflect on the past. That's the great thing about EITS, is that all of the songs have a different meaning for everyone. Associating memories with a specific song or songs (or even an entire album) is normal. Thank you for sharing your own thoughts and story behind the music. English is my native language, and I take an interest in studying it too. When I have the opportunity to, I often write, but I haven't had the time to pursue any personal writing in a while. That's awesome about seeing them in the Netherlands and Croatia! They're coming to NYC in September, and I was going to try to make it possible to go and see them. However, the date coincides with another event that following weekend where I will traveling… I was going to buy tickets anyways and see what happens. If I go, those few days are going to be very, very intense. But that's kind of the exciting part, in a weird way! Are you in Croatia? That's actually pretty interesting – I am looking into a study abroad program that would have me in Croatia for the first half of 2017 or so. Hi Luka, nice to meet you too. I think I remember seeing the same thing in an interview too, it's a really interesting take on it, but it makes sense. Either you're passionately in love or passionately despise it. As for love and thoughts for the band, it's hard to find a place to start describing that, hahah. There's so much to cover. I started listening to EITS for the first time probably in 2014 or so, I think. Before this, I had been listening to another post-rock band called El Ten Eleven (which I highly recommend). Through them, I then discovered EITS on Pandora. Probably with "Your Hand in Mine". Seems like that's where a lot of people first listen to them. Anyways, I have a strange music listening cycle. I find new music on Pandora, then I add it to my Spotify and listen to it there for a while, and eventually I finally order a CD, import it to my library, and upload it to Google Play so I can listen on my phone. I can't remember which album I ordered first. It was either "All of a Sudden I Miss Everyone" or "Take Care, Take Care, Take Care". I remember the last one I ordered was "The Earth is Not a Cold Dead Place". Each album means something different to me, and the context surrounding their release definitely adds to the meaning. "Those Who Tell the Truth Shall Die, Those Who Tell the Truth Shall Live Forever" has strong symbolism for war during the whole album, probably because of the connection between the artwork and the Angel of Mons. I think "The Wilderness" definitely has some connections to the digital era, but I haven't quite figured out all the details yet. I'll get back to you on that one. Agreed once again, the beauty is in not having to say a word and still saying so much, each sound acting like a word. Listened to El Ten Eleven and loved it, weird I didnt hear bout them earlier but really phenomenal band, still need to listen to the whole discography! And for your writing - just give it time, life is quiteeee long There's nothing better than finding perfect words to describe your thought and putting them on paper, telling you, takes time but you'll find it! If you get the chance to get the time for the concert it would be great, I mean it's not like I listened to them live yet but if there's any chance to do it, do everything you can to make it happen ^^ Aw man, Croatia is beatiful, the whole country is amazing. People aren't the greatest, but no country has a greater number of good people compared to all the bad ones. I'm in Split, 2nd largest city in the country and just check it on google, I think you'd like it a lot! Yeah, "Your Hand in Mine" seems to be the start for many many people, beauty of post rock contained in just one song ^^ Nice cycle lol, loving it hahaha And YES, again agreed on every single word. It's like I think it and you write it, but should follow your example and order the albums since I have none. Would be nice to start the collection with it, that's for sure |
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Post by kmae2015 on Apr 25, 2016 21:16:06 GMT -5
Finally! People that like to discuss EITS thoroughly. I've got to say out of all the albums I've heard from this band this was probably my least favorite. By least favorite, I mean it evoked the least emotion and created the least amount of vivid memories in my mind. I've been an avid listener since 2004 and have enjoyed the epic climaxes and emotional rests in each song. This album brought out a different feeling for me, and although I appreciated the turn they took and the creativity expressed, I wanted more. More... drama almost, more feeling.
It was as if you had seen a past lover or friend in passing one day after parting so long ago, and they were just completely different. You had this vision that they were exactly the same and everything would just pick up again where you left off, and it just doesn't happen. You get that sense every now and again in the conversation that the old them is hidden there, but not entirely. This album gets me in little instances, but it doesn't captivate and envelope me like the others do....
I will say, I immediately pre-ordered and bought tickets to several of their upcoming shows without even caring what their album sounded like. Simply because I knew I'd appreciate it and love it no matter what, and I do. But I miss their beginning days.
Songs like "First Breath After A Coma" and "Yasmin the Light" and "Catastrophe and the Cure". I probably sound like the WORST! Ugh, I had to let it out.
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Post by jflory7 on Jul 28, 2016 0:49:36 GMT -5
Finally! People that like to discuss EITS thoroughly. I've got to say out of all the albums I've heard from this band this was probably my least favorite. By least favorite, I mean it evoked the least emotion and created the least amount of vivid memories in my mind. I've been an avid listener since 2004 and have enjoyed the epic climaxes and emotional rests in each song. This album brought out a different feeling for me, and although I appreciated the turn they took and the creativity expressed, I wanted more. More... drama almost, more feeling. It was as if you had seen a past lover or friend in passing one day after parting so long ago, and they were just completely different. You had this vision that they were exactly the same and everything would just pick up again where you left off, and it just doesn't happen. You get that sense every now and again in the conversation that the old them is hidden there, but not entirely. This album gets me in little instances, but it doesn't captivate and envelope me like the others do.... I will say, I immediately pre-ordered and bought tickets to several of their upcoming shows without even caring what their album sounded like. Simply because I knew I'd appreciate it and love it no matter what, and I do. But I miss their beginning days. Songs like "First Breath After A Coma" and "Yasmin the Light" and "Catastrophe and the Cure". I probably sound like the WORST! Ugh, I had to let it out. It comes in short, little bursts. I get small reminders to check back here every once and a while and see if anything is new. I thought I was receiving email updates for replies to this thread, though… guess I never got this one. I'm not sure I can entirely agree with you. Without a doubt, the album was a new direction for EITS. And unlike you, I don't have a decade of listening to have appreciated the band and understood their sound and evolution. I began listening around 2013 and it was picking up what was already there in differing sequences. I think the last three songs you mentioned are some of the most beautiful ones, though. I don't think it's awful at all for you to say those are some of your favorites. They invoke powerful emotion and everyone is entitled to like any given song for their own reason. You don't have to justify why you like it other than you do. However, I don't know if I can disagree that this album is my least favorite, per say. I really do like your metaphor of explaining what the album feels like for you. I suppose for me, it's maybe more like a friend you haven't seen in quite some time, and they've gone in a different direction from when you last saw them. It's not necessarily a bad direction. In this case, EITS was experimenting with lots of new sound dimensions and they were actively battling the fear of sounding too "electronic" in this album. But my feeling is that this new sound is necessary for change and adapting. Very few people or groups of people can do the same thing for so long. We always have change in different forms in life. In a way, this change was like the friend wanting to do change something of their self for the better. EITS adapted their sound for the future and well-being of their art. If they kept producing the same sounds album after album, I imagine they would lose their touch. The music wouldn't be as magical for them. It would result in burnout. Does that mean you're obligated to fall in love with the new album? No, absolutely not. But it's a change for them to adapt to their own new worlds since they started this whole thing. And I personally like the direction they took this album. It's a different one from past works and it fits in its own place for me with their other albums. It tells a different story, a different meaning, from the others. It's been three, almost four, months since the album released and I still don't know what that full meaning is. But then again, some of these albums have been out for over fifteen years and I still don't have full answers for some of those either… The magic of music, I suppose. |
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